EP 280 — 2025 Design, Live, Thrive Summit for Women: Recap & Breakthroughs (Part 1)
The Design Live Thrive Summit for women coaches, is officially wrapped, and the feedback has been incredible! In this episode, Debbie Shadid, Thais Glenn, and some of the fabulous female coaches who were speakers at the summit reflect on their experience at the summit and share their biggest breakthroughs.
With over 25 coaches presenting on topics like life transitions, confidence, health, relationships, and building a purpose-driven business, this summit was all about truly designing your life and coaching business with intention.
In this episode, you’ll hear:
The most powerful lessons and “aha moments” from the summit
How female coaches can attract clients through online summits
Why designing your life with purpose helps your business thrive
The unique challenges (and opportunities!) for women over 50 in coaching
Real stories of resilience, reinvention, and growth shared on the summit stage
What’s next for the women who joined us at the Design, Live, Thrive Summit
If you’ve been wondering whether an online summit for women coaches can really move the needle in your life and business, this episode will show you what’s possible.
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Transcript
Welcome to the podcast. Today I am just over the moon to actually wrap up the summit with this group of beautiful coaches. We just finished the summit about a hour ago, and so I wanna start with you, Mary, because you were like a barrel of energy. We had so much fun hearing from you about LinkedIn. I would love to hear. Kind of what your biggest takeaway was from the summit. Wow. To be able to articulate my biggest takeaway, I think that that's it. Wow. It was bigger and better than I even expected. I mean, I was moved to tears so many times. I did not expect that. I did not expect that. I didn't expect the depth of emotion that I felt. I didn't expect so many of the presenters to speak to me directly, like I could completely relate to them. That absolutely blew me away. You saw it in my comments'cause I was pretty active It. It was incredible. The whole thing was incredible. Oh, thank you. I feel the same way. I know we wrapped up the day with Eric Bigger and he had me just crying, you know, that was, um, yeah, it was just really special. And again, I know I said this before, but thank you to you ladies for letting me share what I believe is my mission, which is to help people really understand what coaching is, and that's why you guys talking. So Gina, uh, you're up next. So tell me how you think you have changed since this summit. Preparation for the summit. And now you finished talking literally like two hours ago. How different are you post-summit? I mean, finishing. As soon as I finished, I was like, wow. Like, what am I gonna do now? Um, it really was that, that sense of like, okay, like we're doing this now. Like, I've stopped thinking about it, I've stopped just daydreaming about it, like, we're, we're gonna take the next step. So I've actually spent the last two hours thinking like, what, where am I going now? Because I, I just feel, I feel ready in a way that I think I didn't before. I love that. Yeah. And okay, but I need to plug in the B, BB in this answer because we have you, right? Mm-hmm. Like, we've got you and we have everything to, to give you of that next steps after the as an event like this. So I love that you're already thinking through and going through in your head and by writing things down and. We also will teach you everything that you need to do after this. Don't wanna lose momentum. So, so exciting. No, I agree. And I think that I, you know, even the things that I'm thinking about, what do I want to ask you about at the next session that we have? It feels different that, you know, I, my, my mind is thinking in a different way and, and so I'm ready, I'm ready to come back to the next coaching session and ask those questions. And the quality of questions right there be like, especially as we are preparing for the summit, the quality of questions that have been asked in, in our coaching calls have changed. And that's why, you know what, what you just said, we don't really have questions until we put ourself out there and we're like, oh, this, now I know Flo desk. It's kind of confusing. Now you have the questions to ask. So that is one of the things that I was the most excited about during the summit preparation. It's the quality of questions that you guys started asking because you were doing the work and by doing, you would have, right, like you, you needed more clarity. So you had the questions to ask. Awesome. I can wait for that call. Okay. Let's see. Victoria, I'll go to you next. Tell me for you like. What has changed for you? So much has changed. I basically have gone from sitting on the sidelines for a very long time to really just saying now or never jump in both feet. I'm gonna stop you, Victoria. Hold on. I wanna stop you. Your volume is much lower than everybody else's. Okay. Hang on. But you might have your mic on and I would like people to be able to hear you. Mm-hmm. It might be a different, uh, mic that you're using. I'm still, or just lean forward. I would say lean forward. I'll lean, I'll lean forward. Okay. Okay. That what was, go ahead and start over then. Yeah, ask me again. Let's pretend what has changed for you with the summit? I think so much. I went from sitting on the sidelines to really for a long time, just watching when am I gonna have the courage to step in and I think. Doing this, having a deadline. And there were several times I thought, no, I, I'm gonna back out. I'm gonna back out. And I just said, no, you're not gonna back out. This is it. You're 65 today, so you're gonna do it. So, um, and I, and I did, and I was so proud of myself. Even the other night when I, uh, because of other things, I didn't get my flow desk done. and Thais you kindly made that video for me and I said, you know, first it was like, I'm never, I'm not gonna do this. And then I followed your instructions. I stopped, I went, I stopped. I went. And I was so proud of myself that I felt I did it. So I mean it, every little step, Calendly, Stripe, flow desk, I still wanna perfect Canva. I think I'm gonna have a lot of fun with Canva. Um, but I, the, I just can't believe I'm still learning things. So that was really great. That is such a wonderful answer because we can see the excitements that you have now with the learning, right? And that is, again, that mindset, the entrepreneurial mindset is that you're welcoming the learning instead of, oh, canvas sucks. It's so hard. I, I will just give up. Sending emails. I just give up. And now look how you are saying that. It's so exciting that you get to learn Canva and you have so much fun now you're excited to go in there and play around with everything. Right? And I think in the same lines, Norma, I go next with you because I think you have learned quite a bit too with this Canva and Flow desk and everything. Tell us what has changed for you as a business owner because of the summit. Oh my goodness, where do I begin? Um, like Victoria and like Gina said, both of them, I piggyback on that. I went from absolutely sitting down, looking in front of, I'm like, God, I don't know how to do this. I'm so frustrated, so overwhelmed to, okay, no, you gotta learn this, and everything has just changed. Like you said, I learned flow desk, I learned Canva. Two, two obstacles that were big obstacles for me because, you know, I always was saying, and in my mindset, you know, I suck at tech, you know, and I can't get this done, but I did it and I did it on my own. Nobody helped me. Well, besides you guys. So that has changed the whole entire dynamics of my business because now I feel like I can move forward and actually. Do what I say, you know, and get it done. So, no, it's, it's been a humongous, humongous, um, amazing experience. That's, that's all I can say is, and it's gonna push my business forward. And I already see that. I already, I already see that. It's so interesting because we could not begin to explain this to anyone who might join our coaching program or who is thinking about joining. We couldn't begin to explain the sense of satisfaction that you would feel once you can email people.'cause all you're thinking about is I just gotta get clients. Like that's it. And I'm always like, of course you do. But also there's literally this whole thing that you don't know how to do. And once you know how to do it. The empowered feeling that you have when I say like, the power of your business and your earning capacity is now in your hands. It's like you don't really understand that until you're here. It's easy to watch all the trainings and see all the stuff, but you don't really get it. So I like to think you now have the capacity to have a business for a lifetime. So, uh, Norma, we are just so proud of everybody. Norma had. Computer problem. She had this, she had that, you know, it was kind of like a broken record. I like this is, but she just overcame it all. I mean, she just would not stop and she kept going and look at, you know, so, so, so amazing. So thank you. All right, Kathleen, I have to go to you and ask you because you are another, um, person that has overcome. A lot of challenges on the tech and all this stuff. And you are meeting us right now while you are on vacation in Hawaii, which we're kind of all jealous about. But I'd love to know how do you see yourself now as a woman with a coaching business? Well, I have to just echo all the other speakers. And Norma Honey, I am your twin. I have had tech challenges. Oh my stars. And um, it has been. Um, you know, Thais said, you know, after the summit, just what an impact that made on her and her business. And I, I really listened to that and I knew she was telling the truth because it's one thing to sit on the sidelines and I've been a sideline sitter, like trying to learn. Um, but you don't learn until you do. And having the, the, the power of the group, the support of the group, and you guys, um. Was foundational, it would not have happened had you not created this opportunity. So I am very grateful. Um, and in terms of the accomplishments, as I look back, it's like, you know, I, I have had more challenges than I even wanna care to tell you, but, um, that I've, you know, that I made it mm-hmm. That I, you know, got the emails, found the flow desk, you know, it got, there's so many steps that. You know, sort of seemed hard and some steps were really hard. But, you know, the knowing that we had a deadline, we had, we had a goal, and it's like, no time for excuses, sister. Just keep one foot in front of the other. Just keep on keeping on. So. It was, it was really powerful and, and, and oh my gosh, I, you know, people have signed up and I'm kind of going, I don't, I, I need some help. Oh my God, wait, what's the next step? Because I know my stuff, but in terms of how do I bring someone along into something that will really make a difference in their life, I don't wanna just throw up on them with all my knowledge. I wanna be able to. You know, encourage and make sense so that there's a pathway to gently bring people along and, and move them from, you know, from upset and, and frustrated and up, you know, grief stricken to. Where I want them to be at the end. So I am so looking forward to next week's coaching. Oh, my stars. It is just gonna be amazing. And we have to check out today. So it's like I, you know, if somebody knocks at the door, I might have to sign off. But I am so grateful for the opportunity and, and you know, I, I, it was just amazing. Well, we have your back on the what do we do next thing. Like I said, we'll help you with that. And again, I think it's so beautiful what you just said. It's like, it's what you've been waiting for, and all of a sudden it's happened now, literally, we just finished the summit two hours ago. It's happened. Now it's like, uh oh, what do I do next? And that's why it's business building is always a little bit more unpredictable than what you thought it would be. But listen, girl, we got your back. We're here for you so we know what the next steps are, and I can assure you that you are already actually perfectly equipped and ready to help anyone. So we always make sure that people are coaching around and teaching around something that they know so well. We're just here to assure you that you do and that you'll be just fine. So I'm gonna go to Lori. Uh, next. Lori Welsh, your talk was, um, you know, the talked about talk. So tell me what you think has changed about you since the summit. Well, what I think every coach needs a coach. I, I honestly believe that, and every person. Really needs a coach. But whether it's for mindset, accountability, the tech marketing, it is crucial. Um, and it's, I feel like a weight's been lifted, you know, I'm showing up and that's unbelievable. Well, and she is somebody who showed up because. She's also one of the people, just like the rest of these ladies who got on social media, who went live, who did reels who, and I could put check marks by everybody's names here. You know, it's, it's one thing to post a static post that you curated and you made it, like, made it look perfect. It's another thing to go on there live and start talking. And Lori, um, you did an excellent job with that. So, um, super excited for you. Some of the coaches have never even been on social media really. Right. In the summit, and now you see their Instagram, it's, it's filled up and then they go live. And Debbie and I were just sort of like, oh my goodness. They look what they're doing. We're just so proud of all of you guys. And yes, I, I love that. Now with Lori, I need to give her another shout out then, because she had. Family at her, like, you know, extended family at her house. So she had a lot of guests and on the summit day, and she has participated of calls to get herself prepared when she was in Paris. So she did not stop to get everything here set up and on time following the deadlines. So, Lori, that was pretty impressive what you did. It was amazing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Couldn't have done it without Debbie and Tys. Pace. You're up, girl. Yes, I know. Reading the message. The okay. Now Glen, you, I want to ask you a question 'cause you have been someone's al all. You have been someone who's always like on time for everything. So I don't know if you've had any type of procrastination in your life in general. I dunno if procrastination is something that gets to you, but I also know you have a very busy, full life, uh, with all the things that you do. How was it for you then? Like did the summit help you with? Not procrastination, but did the summit, how did the summit help you transform how you see the business and Ding and Jungle juggle? I'm sorry, Debbie. I've been here since yesterday. And how did the summit help you keep everything on time? Because you were one of the coaches that followed every single deadline. How was it for you? It was a great experience. Um, I've been working with Debbie almost over a year now. Um, and I kind of was just out there, um, and I wasn't really moving forward and that's what I liked about the summit. It doesn't give you a choice about whether you can move forward or not. Your website's gotta be done, your flow desk has gotta be done. Your emails gotta be done. Your marketing, and I'm always. I have a lot of commitments anyway, and I've done a lot of professional speaking, but to do it on my passion and my platform is, is different. And so it, with y'all's help, it was great because I had a deadline. My presentation had to be done. You know, you gave us all the deadlines and you had already given us the tools, and so we knew what we needed to do, but taking action on them didn't happen until you had those deadlines. So I think it really makes a, unactive coach become a very active coach in developing their business. Yes. Yes. I agree. I think even for me, preparing a talk, 'cause we always have one talk just in case, right? Having that deadline is so helpful, so, so helpful to keep that accountability going. Right? That self accountability and having all of you guys. W with the accountability tools, it's so very helpful. Thank you, Glenna. Now, Judy, how was it for you? How was the, the summit preparation? How was, how was everything for you? Well, when I joined BBB I never ever thought that, um, it would be this expansive. So it was an extraordinary, expansive opportunity for me. I, um. Never thought that creating an online business would have so many different parts. You know, I just thought I needed a website. Uh, just a few things. But once I joined and began to see. All of the different parts that I had no knowledge about. Um, I've had a brick and mortar business. I presented live a lot, but this online thing is a totally different kind of component and I was just totally naive in how. Take next steps. So I am greatly appreciative. I need to, I think my time was up, my six or seven months was up, and I gotta join again because I know that I still need a tremendous amount of support and help to take it to the next level. Judy, don't worry, I'll be in touch with you. I don't want you going anywhere. So you're, yes, you're on my list. Um, I have to just give Judy kudos because when she came to us, she actually hired us to build her website and I wrote her marketing message and I helped her with her branding and all of those kind of things. And I would agree with what she said, like she's been a businesswoman before. She's done marketing, before. She's been a successful professional. You know, and, and she was not afraid to go invest in her business in the biggest way, but I do think she thought, I just need a website and then I'm gonna be a coach. And, and also I should say Judy was also operating her business successfully without any of this stuff. So she already had paying clients. She was already working with people. She was already making money. Yeah. I think she thought like add the next level of the website and then like. Just tie it up with a bow and I'm done. I've already got the business in shape. And then it was like, oh no, come here honey. I want you to speak at this summit. So, um, I just have to commend juju D for the sheer determination. And, um, you know, the tech part again, and this is not just, it's really everybody here almost could say tech was challenging. But, um, some of the tech things that were challenging for Judy, it's simply because you've never done 'em. All of us have used computers in our lives, but none of us, most of the coaches that come to work with us have not done the kind of stuff that we're doing here. So it is really like, talk about rewriting your brain to learn some new technology in Judy, you did it beautifully, so I commend you. Yeah, yeah. Um, okay, so I'm gonna start back with Gina. I wanna ask you about your self-belief. How do you think the summit has changed your self-belief, um, about yourself as a coach and also now as a person who owns a coaching company? That's a great question. I think, you know, I. I started listening to your podcast like almost two years ago and listened to old episodes. So I had heard the interviews from the summit in the past. Oh, and it was that idea of like, this is an option. This is something that's out there. But I don't think that I had really connected to from the place of, I would like to do this too. I'm going to do this, and I am doing this. Um, so I think it was that transition over time that, um, that has been really exciting for me. So, so I think moving into that place of, no, I'm doing this now, um, has been a, a big shift for me that, that I'm really excited about. Mary, what about you? What do you think, uh, you have finally done that you were going to do that now that the summit's over, you know, you put off until now, what? Was there anything that you finally got done that you'd been saying you were gonna do? Yes. There were two things that I finally got done because of my relationship with you, and the first one was niching down. We had that initial conversation and you know, I've got a lot of business experience and I could have gone in several different directions. Not that I'm an expert in all these, but I just, I know what, like that 2% a little bit so I could speak to different, um, silos. But when we really started talking, and I mean you used the word force, you, you guided me to LinkedIn because that, that's really where my passion has been lately. And I was questioning my own expertise because I'm looking at all these. Other amazing, like influencer coaches that have, you know, way more knowledge than I do. And I had to believe in myself that, you know what, I've got knowledge that I can share too. And once I started talking about it, not only to you, but just to my network, people started going, yeah, I need that. I need that, I need that. And because of that, my, my confidence just, you know, really, really was boosted. The second big thing I did was that website, Debbie, the, the marketing plan or the, the, um, the, the outline that you gave us. Really, really helped me hone my thoughts. I'm a shiny object person. I go there, I go there, I go there. You made me go. right there. It was like, it was like a bowling alley with bumpers. I knew I couldn't get into the gutter'cause I knew you had guided me between my niche and then building that website. That really validated me to me for my coaching practice. I have to tell you, you guys, you'll learn what everybody, um, you can go to design live thrive.com. Actually, you can go see what everybody talked about. You can go see what their niches are, and I want you to go there. We're not gonna go through everybody's, but I'll tell you Mary is coaching people around LinkedIn and if you needed validation, you got it in the chat because every person that was on the summit, it seemed like watching was like in the chat going, oh yeah. Oh, oh yeah, I need that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Thank you. Yeah. For doing what you're doing because it is a, an incredible opportunity. And, and if you didn't, you know, already know that you found out today Definitely was, and, and just to see the, not just the excitement of everyone there, but even I was. I never thought that LinkedIn was a place for me, right? Like I, I coach women, uh, moms, so it's, it should be Instagram and that's what I like the most. But then Mary came and was like, oh no, that's for everyone in business. Should be on LinkedIn. And just the explanation that she gives gave me the, almost the hope that I don't need to look ridiculous on LinkedIn. Right, like the, the step by step. And, and that is like you guys, if you're building your business right now, you might be even afraid of looking ridiculous as a coach. So remembering that when you have that step by step, you can do things really well. And that's what we do in BB, B. But Mary, you definitely gave me that, a hope for LinkedIn. So we'll be talking later my friend. It was really good Talk. Really good. I it you, I'm sorry. And you even put the question up for me, so go ahead. Okay. Okay. Okay. Should I just ask for all of them and they just, I think that would be great. Yes. And I love, um, Lori, Wes', you know, everybody in LinkedIn folks. I should have said that. Okay. All my sweet friends, this has been such a phenomenal weekend and I'm so happy that we got to participate with you guys. So I do have a question for all of you. So whoever. Wants to answer, just raise your hand and it will go to you. But if another coach was on the fence right about now listening to this episode and thinking like, should I join BBB, should I join the summit next time? Um, what would you tell them? Hell yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. So yes. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Jump in. That's what I heard. Tell me one person here, tell me why. Handholding. Handholding. Yeah. I felt that I never, I never got, didn't get a question answered. I felt like I was nudged along very, very carefully. Everything was explained when I didn't understand something. You helped BBB helped and um. Even when I had a, a topic that nobody knew what it was and I really had to push and nobody had heard of it, and I kept it, made me stick to my guns and say, this is what I'm gonna do, and you, nevermind. You, you, you knew I had something. Maybe it wasn't something that other people knew about, but you just helped me keep going forward. Yes. So for me, I always felt, I always felt, uh, in good hands, let's put it that way. Wonderful. Thank you. How about you, Mary? I had initially resisted joining the summit. Debbie asked me when I first came on board and I was like, you know, it's summertime. My kids are home. It was a time thing, I just didn't wanna commit to it. I didn't think I could pull it together. I think it was June or July when I jumped in and this, you know, it's the first week of September. I thought, there's no way I could do that. And I said yes for some reason. Um, I'm not sure which coaching call we were on, but I said yes. I jumped in and I'm so glad I did because of the transformation that I had. Even between July and and September, we talk about transformation. As coaches, we, we talk about transformation in our clients. For me, my transformation is I walked out of this experience with so many things, but I walked out of this experience with a signature talk so that I have that in my back pocket now so that, you know, in my world, wherever I am, if there's a whole. You know, that I could fill somewhere, even a, even at a, you know, a, a meeting at UB University of Buffalo, I'm pretty involved there. Um, if they needed somebody to speak on something, I could absolutely, without a doubt, step in and say, you know what? I got this. And it, it was because of the summit that I have that confidence. Yes. So Debbie Tip, she used to say this all the time for us, right? Like, we need to have your signature talk. And then the summit came. I did my signature talk in the first summit. In the second summit I was hosting with her. And someone completely lost her voice and couldn't participate. And we heard of this just, you know, maybe not even an hour before her time to talk. So I'm there hosting, and then Deb and I, we were talking in the. Back and it was like, can you talk Tais? And I was like, yes. I happened to be in a summit last year and I do have my talk and I just open up in Canva and download it really quick. Read through and I did the whole talk. Right. So you are absolutely right, Mary having that. That is. A, a big, you know, a like a big summary of everything that you talk in your business and be able to share it anytime in podcast, anything that they invite you, you can do it so quickly. That just gives you the amount of confidence. Thanks for sharing that. Yes. I wanna say, I wanna say about Mary, sorry, uh, for interrupting Mary, but I wanna give you kudos because Mary was. Mary sent us a message, and I don't know what the circumstances was because it was at the end of this week, right before the summit, and I was like, I don't even have time to inquire what is going on. But she was like, I need to do it on a video, uh, do the video presentation for everybody listening. We actually have everybody create a video as a backup in case somebody's sick or there's an internet problem or something. So nobody just misses out. But it was like, she's gonna be on video. And it was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Tys tells me what she would do and I'm like, I'm gonna message her and she needs to be live because you, I knew what you would bring would be so different. So thank you for moving. From whatever reason, it was to be on video to changing what you were doing to be her live, because the impact that you made is so much significantly different being here live. Yeah. So thank you for that. Thank you. To be fair, her video was awesome. Yeah, right. We were like, the video would be perfect, but your energy, what you can bring live. And you saw it beginning of the summit today. You saw what you brought and you know all the comments and all the love. So thank you for changing your plans and being here with us. It was funny because I was relieved once I submitted that video and I had worked like all day long 'cause I kept making mistakes and I kept starting over, starting over.'cause I wanted to get all the way through. So when I submitted it was like, I'm so done, you know, whew, I'm done. And then when I got that message, I'm like, oh my gosh, there's no way I can do that in front of how many hundreds of people here. But I took the jump and I said yes. I mean, I've, I've, I coach people in a, in a smaller environment, but never on a platform like this before. I mean, that was a big challenge for me. So, yeah, that was cool. That's awesome. Thank you, Kathleen. What is that? Oh, sorry. I thought Kathleen maybe had her hand up. Who, who would like to next? I, I did wanna Hold on Kathleen. Lemme just, if someone is on fence, hold on. Time out. Go ahead. Sorry. Let me call you so you can, okay, well thank you so much for that. Mary. How about you, Kathleen? Yeah. What I wanted to say was if somebody's on the fence thinking, should I commit to this summit? It's a lot of work. I don't know it. It takes you from being on the sidelines for sure. But you know, when we did the podcast before the summit to talk about where we each got to shine a little bit, the spotlight you guys provide for us, it just, it made me feel like, it just, it just, I felt this level of elevation that it was like. Go ahead. Look at her. Look at her. And it was, it's not something as a coach with your own business, that you have an opportunity to feel elevated. For me so often in the day, it's like, what? I didn't get to what I should have done better. You know, so many of the things, it's, it's, but when in this preparation, when you spotlight us, you really, um, for me anyway, my experience was that there's a sense of acknowledgement of our passion and our abilities that, um. I don't get from my husband. I'm just, sorry. I'm just saying. So it, it's, it's, um, it's absolutely a positive endeavor. Are you gonna work? Yes, you will. Are you gonna be frustrated and challenged? Yes, you will. But at the end of it, you are gonna be amazed and a different woman. That is so true. Yes. And again, keep on looking for the support of our spouse or kids, right? Waiting for children, not in your case, not children anymore, but right. Your adult, uh, children to come and help you. It, it just destroys the relationship with them because they don't want to help you. My husbands are not there to be super supportive on your dreams. All the time. They also have their lives, believe it or not. So I think that is, it's a great point, right? Find the support where it's actually people there just to support you. That's, that's, um, the best that you can do for your own business. I agree with that, Kathleen. Thank you. How about you, Judy? I I just wanted to say again that, you know, I never anticipated that the expansion opportunity would be so broad. I have been promoting Debbie since I joined, I think with all of her expertise and knowledge. Uh, she's just a phenomenal woman. And so are you Thais I mean, the kindness, the. No judgment, the never giving up on you no matter what. Uh, I can't, it's, it's really just hard to explain the support that I never anticipated to receive. So I have so much appreciation and I will continue, continue to support because you are either gonna stay where you are or you're gonna expand. And so I had to ask myself. Where are you at and what do you wanna do? So yeah. Thank you Judy so much. Yeah. Lori, go ahead. No, I, I've, I've been coached before. You're not my first coach, and you and Thais together are very magnetic, let me put it that way. And it's not just the support. And, um, the great help with messaging and marketing that you give me, but it's that you are a magnet for other quality women and the support from the community. That you have and all the other coaches that we work with, um, we get together when you're not even around. Not that we don't want you around, but, um, it, it's just a great atmosphere and I really, uh, I really enjoyed it. Well, I'm gonna continue to enjoy it so. That is so true. I think you guys really find that community here. And sometimes Debbie and I, we get a little bit jealous. Not gonna lie, that you guys all get together on Zoom and talk and support each other. Like they never invite us, huh? But we get it. You need that time. But that is something that we pride ourselves to, that this beautiful community that we are able to create. And I agree with you, like Debbie definitely attracts the best women, the most lighthearted. Loving, caring, supportive women in our community, and I'm just so appreciative that I get to be a part of this show. Uh, she never gives herself credit. Tys is so amazing. Okay, I wanna wrap this up because we could be here having a love fest for a long time. So we're gonna wrap it up. But I just wanna offer the opportunity if anybody has anything else to say that they feel like they haven't said. This is our final, um, summit interview. Um, until the next summit interview, I'll tell you the next summit is, uh, February 12th. Our speakers who have the first opportunity to be in it are gonna be our current clients and our past clients. And then of course, it's open to the rest of you guys to join us. But does anybody else have anything else they wanna share before we wrap up? Yeah. Glenn. I would just like to say, Debbie, that you offer a lot of services and one of the things you wanna think about is you want someone who has more knowledge than you giving you advice, and you definitely have that with your years of service and you can bring ideas to you and you're not afraid to tell us. No. I know it sounds like everything is lovely and y'all are just so lovely and wanna tell us everything's perfect, but you need someone who's going to tell you the truth. And ask you the hard questions, particularly Thais as well, with mindset questions. So I just want everybody to know you truly get what you need. It's not only making your business better, but after you finish the summit, you've got the skills and the tools that you need to be able to launch your own program and start your first program. So I just wanna say thank you to both of you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, you guys, thank you so much. Let's just all go on vacation together. Is Hawaii open, Kathleen? Oh no, you're checking out today. Darn it. Anyway, okay. There's so much love in this room and I just wanna invite anybody who's listening to join us. I know it is one more investment. I know that you've already bought other coaching programs. Everybody here has already bought coaching programs. I know that everybody has already bought other coaching programs and I know it's. One more thing that you want to invest in and you're thinking, I don't know. I don't know. But anyway, I'm just grateful for you guys. Grateful for anyone who joins us, and I am so looking forward to this. Somebody mentioned adrenaline. It's like a high, it's like the happiest high after you finish this for Tyce and I both and for all of you guys I know. So thank you so much, so much love to every one of you guys for all of the work that you did because you each have something. This is where I could cry. That is so important for people to know about and it can only happen when you get brave enough to do it and you did it. So, so much love to you guys. Tys, thank you again. Thank you. Thank, thank you for, thank you for the opportunity to do this with you and to be the coach of this beautiful clients. I absolutely adore them and, and I adore you. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Okay, big hug, everybody. Have an amazing week. We'll see you on our coaching calls where we are getting down to business. All right. Bye-bye. Thank you. Bye.