EP 384 - Design Live Thrive Summit Fall 2026: Day Two Recap

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00:00 Summit Wrap-Up and Speaker Highlights
00:49 Meet the Coaches and Co-hosts
01:59 Navigating Grief and Loss
03:15 The Physical Toll of Emotional Stress
06:44 Supporting Helpers Through Burnout
12:22 Setting Boundaries as the Dependable One
17:03 Creating a Healthy Relationship With Money

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Today we are wrapping up Our final day of the Design Live Thrive Summit. Day one was a coaches' exclusive day, or for anyone who is interested in being a coach,,, I talked about the first client framework. If you're interested in getting a replay of that, I wanna encourage you go to designlivethrive.com/vip, and you can have full access to all of the replays. plus each one of the coaches, 18 speakers, have given you a gift. So there is, , something for you to download that goes with their talk or something that you can use independently outside of the talk as well.. But today I wanna talk through some of the additional questions that we got, from people who attended. So I'm gonna let you introduce yourself first. I'm gonna start with our co-host, Thais Glenn, and then we'll move on from there. Thais, welcome. Thank you so much. I am Thais Glenn. I, , have been co-hosting this event with Debbie for a few years, but I was a client when I first did the very first, summit with her, and it has been getting better and better each time we do this. So I am, Thais Glenn, working with Debbie for a few years now. Have been helping those beautiful girls getting all of her, their talks ready, and I am just so excited to be here again, and what a , beautiful three days that we just had. If you had not had a chance yet to watch these things, you will see by the answers from the questions that they got how amazing those talks were. So go ahead and buy your VIP tickets because it is worth every penny. Hi. I'm Jennifer Flanders. I am a life and career coach for psychotherapists, and I help helpers, cultivate self-sustainability and, feel better in their own lives. Hi. I'm Margaret Meader, and I'm a grief and wellness coach. And I work with people who have survived the loss of a love to find wellness and recovery. Margaret, I'm gonna start with you with the first question. on grief and recovery, can you share a little bit about the type of grief that you help people with? I know there's some people who lose a pet, and that dramatic. Mine are right here with me, know how that is. Absolutely. talk about-… the kind of griefs that you support people through. Specifically, I'm really trained and experienced in supporting people with the death of any loved one, be it person or pet. I'm a pet lover as well. And, the death of a pet or a person that you have spent time with is just profound. Absolutely profound. And the processes that we have to go through to just reinvent our lives without that person physically being with us, but yet discovering how their spirit might still be with us is an interesting and, challenging journey. Margaret, There was a couple of little things that you said that, that got my little antenna up, and I was like- Yeah … "Is that true?" And one of those things, that is it really true that grief can be shown on your blood test? Absolutely. Yeah, our body's chemistry changes when we go through intense stress, and actually, yeah, stress and grief of any kind. And it, all kinds of ways, our cortisol levels, our heart, our immune system, everything goes through a change. We hear those things as how difficult it is, how painful it is, but to the point where it actually shows on your blood work blew my mind. Yeah, right to your cellular level. It really does. Yeah. And there's so much research that has been done about this. It's not just a theory, it's actually fact that's been shown by a huge body of research. Well, there are numbers, of people who die from a broken heart. Yes. And, that's real. There was a research study done through the Harvard School of Medicine, an affiliate with them, that shows your risk of cardiac event or death, by heart attack rapidly increases within the first 24 hours. But it's it continues on that same risk, and it's a very real thing. Yeah. That was actually the second thing that really impressed me on her talks. Wow, seriously, death by broken heart. Yeah. And you have beautiful ways to, really techniques to help us go through the grief, but r- right to just … It's not even about feeling better- but it's just to feel it, to be present, and to process what is happening in our body. Yeah, ways to just be in that moment, that give you a path forward to har- And the harmonizing that we do through different techniques, but one of which is Jin Shin Jyutsu, which is a light touch healing. it actually not only harmonizes on an emotional level, but also on a physical level. we're working to heal our minds, and our bodies, and our emotions in this very challenging time. And then it's very effective, and you can do it anytime, anywhere. And, it's just super important because I find there's not a lot of help readily available. Like, you really … It's very hard to uncover. I found myself, all of the counselors were booked for months, and I found someone who was available, and I ended up at a mental health behavioral center, which is fine, but that really wasn't where I was at. I needed, like, a supportive presence. I didn't really need a mental health specialist It just, it didn't help the process. Like, it made the process seem very dark. Like, why am I here? As opposed to, there's ways out of this that have light, and life, and hope. Yeah. Margaret, I'm gonna out you right here. Okay. We're gonna find Margaret with a very big YouTube channel where she is talking all about this because She holds such deep wisdom, has practices and understanding that goes far beyond, just that example she gave right there, that she couldn't even find the support that she needed when she really needed it. So grateful for what you can do for people. Thank you, Debbie. I really appreciate that. Thank you. Emily, would you introduce yourself to everyone and tell them what you do? So my name is Emily Terry, and my business is Mile High Money Mama. I am a personal finance coach, and I work with women to maximize their income so that they can reach financial independence and start really maximizing their savings so that their money is working for them, not the other way around. And we focus a lot on just making the maximum use out of the money that you already earn. Jennifer, you are the coach, the secret coach that psychotherapists actually hire. Yes. And I think that is really cool. Because sometimes as therapists, they try not to really get involved with coaching, You talked a, a little bit more about this in your talk, how it can have a little negative connotation maybe, but you come in and you actually show them how it's not only, something positive, but it is sometimes what can get them out of the burnout, out of that, difficulties in their practice. Not because you're teaching them anything to teach their clients, but because you're helping them move forward and use that accountability, use that goal setting to really move them towards what they want out of their practice. Did I describe what you do correctly? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I help helpers feel like they have room in their own lives for themselves. You talked about burnout. And as you were speaking, in the back of my mind, and I, I think I know the answer, but I want to hear from you. Shouldn't therapists know if they're burned out or not? It's a good question. Even if you're burned out, you still have to continue to do your work, You have to continue to show up, for people are depending on you, clients. But also your family, your financial life is depending on you showing up for your work. And burnout is a huge part. I found a 2024 study talking about burnout that, in the high 40s, 40 percentile of people, experience burnout, therapists experience burnout. So it's very common. And, I know I personally felt tired, felt, confused by the work feeling so heavy and leaving me feeling trapped, which is how I learned to be more open to other ways of, healing myself or, and reinvesting. It's a reinvestment in myself through coaching. And so learning to re-envision, to imagine what I wanted for myself gave me so much more energy in my life, and I gained that through coaching. Yes. I agree with you. I When you are in the midst of the problem, you tend not, to not see it as a problem. If you're in the midst of a burnout, you don't necessarily look at yourself and say, "Oh, yes, I can self-diagnose here," and notice the burnout coming. Yeah. It's that slow-boiling pot that when you're in it, you don't necessarily notice the temperature changing and that you are becoming more and more, less enlivened, a- as you work. Yes. And you show that really well in your talk. When you were really looking from the outside and within the therapy, the therapist life, and you're able to show them some of the symptoms and seeing why would a coach help them with this, Why wouldn't it be another therapist, per se? But a coach would really able to help them get out of that burnout stage or not able to really live their lives the way they want to because they're feeling so much pressure from work. Yeah. It's such a different modality. Coaching and therapy are very different. therapy is diagnostic. you receive a diagnosis when you go to a therapist, and you work on healing, looking at the past, figuring out how you got to the place where you are now, where you're suffering, and learning how to process and feel better in the, in that setting, whereas coaching is very present and future-minded. And that's what I felt, found so energizing, is to think about, who am I right now, and who do I want to become? And then in a supportive environment with a coach, cultivate, cultivating, actionable steps so that I could move forward and achieve things that I had put on the back burner because I thought it wasn't possible because I was feeling so burned out and, wasn't living in a self-sustainable way. for those of you who are in that state of wondering about therapy or coaching, I would really, no matter whether you're a therapist who's looking for a coach or not, I would encourage you to watch that talk because I think everybody benefited from your very clear, definition of both of those whether you're a therapist who's looking for a coach, you're just a human who wants to know when would I pick coaching and when would I pick therapy. Your talk did a great job of explaining that. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that. it, both things have their place, and you can even do them both at the same time. they are exclusive. They, you can work on the past, and you can work on the present and moving forward. And so they can work hand-in-hand. They don't have to have a conflict with one another. Marie. This is a question. For the woman who knows she needs boundaries, but she has spent years being the dependable one, like I think everybody could almost raise their hand on that one, where does she actually begin, like, setting boundaries when, she has been the person that everybody counted on? one of the things that we start talking about is what are the boundaries, or what are the boundaries at the moment that you have? Because you've been spread, we're talking about this kind of boundary, how do you bring it back into you? but it also is a matter of honoring yourself and knowing that you don't have to shoulder everything, and you don't have to do everything. You don't have to be everything. and that takes a lot of mind, awareness, and that's why when I was breaking it up into awareness and then who's the influencers in your life, and then having the choice, you begin to get to recognize that somebody's in your space. There's a great book out there, uh, by Dr. Ivan Misner called Who's In Your Room? and I liken it to that, where he says,"Okay, you have this house, and you invite people in. Imagine that you invite them in, but they can never leave. The door doesn't go both ways." So family's already in there friends that you've already had or they're already in that room. But if you're inviting other people in, you're gonna take another look at those other people because you may not want them to come in. You may want them out on the porch a little bit. And then you're looking at your family, and you're saying, "Okay, am I gonna move this person to the basement because it…" You have to designate. You have fun with it, but you also, as you're doing it, you're beginning to recognize that we let this come to us, and we accept it. When we say to ourselves that we don't have to accept this, that's awareness. Is it easy? Oh, heck no. Heck no. Sometimes I have to lock them up in the in the attic, in the trunk, and I have to sit on the trunk and lock the door because I recognize, "Oh, there's somebody that just really is in here that I don't want in here," and they're never gonna… can't get them, get rid of them. Then there's people that you can't get rid of, but you can deal with them. We all have that, but the boundaries that we're setting is we're saying, you're gonna stay over here. You can come a little closer. You're gonna move over there." But you determine that by, by how you feel. Not here, ' cause we can all make the adjustments here. It's what you're feel, what you're feeling. That's one of the first things I ask a client is, is, "What are you feeling right now? I don't wanna know what you know. I wanna know what you're feeling." When we start to recognize that this, it doesn't feel good, it's not right, but if I step in and I wanna make that change I may be scared because now I'm gonna have to deal with the consequences that come with that. Yeah. But as you're learning to become stronger for yourself and you're advocating for yourself, you're actually letting them know. It doesn't have to be, like, chop 'em off. The choice is yours of whether or not you stretch it a little bit, and you stretch it a little bit, and you stretch it a little bit. And by the time you've stretched it to where you're comfortable, they don't even know what's going on. And they don't because it's so natural for you. Okay? It's a very natural feeling. And I think a lot of this comes from I'm on the board of directors of Fearless Hudson Valley, which is a domestic violence and social justice agency in the county that I live in, and one of the things as the board members, we work with the governance, but one thing that I learned from the, group of talented people that are there is you never, ever advise the woman to leave. I thought, "Oh my God, what do you mean?" Yes, if there's, a really bad situation where there's an imminent at that moment, but you never advise the woman to leave because the situation can become worse than it is at that moment while you're trying to figure things out. You've now put fuel on the fire. So when I first learned that, that was one of the first things that I started to understand was you're not gonna get rid of all of this right away. The fire's gonna burn for a little while, and as you're tapping it down and putting the water on it, you're beginning to say, "Oh, yeah, I like this feeling. This feels good." Well, welcome Erin. I'm Erin Fisher. I'm a retired mental health therapist, now a mental health coach, and, um, I was delighted to speak at the summit. It was great. we loved having you too, Okay. Emily, you had a talk with so much engagement. People were going crazy by the things you were saying. And one of the things that you point out is It's not just about saving money or budgeting But you're really good at sharing how to create an, a nice and healthy relationship with your money.. So yeah, my entire framework, the system that I teach, it's all about your mindset. It- we start at the very beginning. It doesn't do us any good to be starting at the end when the money's already been spent, and it's such a simple thing that so many people don't realize, and I really wanted to get across to everyone and, you know, repeat, repeat, repeat. Like, if you don't take anything else from this, take the two questions that you ask before buying anything, and how they will completely change the way that you think and interact with money. And I know that a lot of this all started with just me having conversations with friends and being absolutely, just dumbstruck by how much they weren't understanding you don't just spend because you spend. why do you spend? Let's think this process through. And it's actually quite a simple thing to do, it's just people don't wanna take the time to do it or they've never, it's never occurred to them. I meet so many people, I'm working with someone right now that she, I had allocated two weeks to her, to working through her budget, and she's just every single time we talk we add another week to the budget because she has more questions, more thoughts. And each time she just keeps literally saying to me, "Oh my gosh, this is amazing. This is amazing. I had no idea." And that's the thing that we start working through is when you all of a sudden have this awareness, and I think all of the coaches will say similar things is a ton of this is about awareness. And once that clicks, all, the whole thing opens up. And in whatever different avenue of your life, and money is no different. People just tend to not think about it and they just hope and pray that it's gonna get better, and it won't. You have to put in the effort Yeah. You used an example today of the shampoo or conditioner. That when I'm thinking of budgeting, it's like let me buy either the cheapest one or not buy at all, because you're saving money. And the way you were talking about is, no, actually, let's buy exactly the one you want, even if it's more expensive, because you have a reason why you want that one. So let's make sure we are doing the best, with the choices, with the reasons. Well, and it's really personal. you're, 'cause you're having a conversation with yourself in your mind. And I also, when I talk with people, with my clients about doing the budgeting stuff or writing down their spending, I say, "Do not get an app. Do not use your phone. You need to write it down on a piece of paper," because something happens to our minds when we physically write it, and then you come back and you see your handwriting. So that is you talking back to yourself. And you have to pull your phone out. You have to, go through this whole process. Sitting in the store you don't wanna have to remember to pick up your phone. You wanna make it become an automatic so that it takes the minimum amount of effort, and you need to do that all on your own. It's very simple. You just practice, like everything else. And it's also important that you are getting in touch with yourself and understanding more, that my hair, my conditioner thing i- is a classic example I'm not giving that up, and it makes I've tried, and all it does is just make me bitter. Well, that's not helping the situation. So we need to make sure that when we are spending money we're spending it in the places that actually mean something. And for every person, that is totally personal. It's totally different. I gave the example of the woman I'm working with that, stays in the hotel on the weekends to give her sanity to face her week. Now, that is a significant amount of money. But for her, she can't function without it. So then we need to protect that and make sure that that is the priority, and then she doesn't feel guilty when she's doing it, or try and find her way out of it and cancel that and say,"But I wanna save the $200." Yes, but then you can't work, so now you're just hurting yourself, or you come home and you sit and you can't function at all. That is actual value. It's just identifying where the value lies, and then putting aside everything else. But the way that you use that example is so good and so true, and that's meeting people really where, where they are and based on what they need to be able to thrive, right? Right, and we work so hard for our money, so we should still be able to enjoy it. And what happens is when you go through the process of thinking through your spending, you become more resistant to excessive spending, but then it's so, it means so much more. it's finding other ways to live your life that benefit you, but then you still should be able to take that trip. You still should be able to do all those things. It doesn't mean you do nothing. It just means we were reallocating, so then the things that aren't giving you value, we don't have to do 'em, and then the things you do mean so much more to you. Okay, Erin, I would love for you to talk to us about this habit. the habit of your mind thinking about things.. We get used to having things like anxiety and, and overwhelm being things that happen to us, things that we experience. We don't always think of them as things within our control, things we can change. We know like on a greater spans life could be different without anxiety, but we don't realize how close we are to the behavior of the anxiety, of repeating these statements over and over again, and how much of our own influence we can have on that action. how do you find the habits? Like, is there a checklist of habits that Mental habits, I'm talking about. You know, like a common list of things. the one that comes to mind for me would be like, "Oh, I'm so fat." Yeah … like that's a habit that- is running, like, in the background. You're walking around- Mm-hmm … the store looking, I don't know, looking at something. You're like, "Oh, I'm so fat." Or you sit down to eat, "I'm so fat." Or how would- Or I can never find a pair of pants that fit. I hate pants shopping. That's that little bit that we repeat to ourself over and over again. And it's different for all of us, but some of them are very similar. Like you said, you might think, "Oh, I'm fat." I might think I can never find a pair of pants that look right," I might look at the object instead of what I'm saying to myself, and that's sometimes how these habits hide and how they influence w- us, and we don't even realize it. I think that is the main point here is that you don't notice. It's easier for us, you used on your talk the, the habit of picking your nose. It's like, well, that one you'll notice, because if I'm picking my nose, I'm like, "Oh, crap, I did that on camera." Did anyone see it? So it's so much easier for you to catch, do you brush your teeth or not. But when it's mental, that it's only you, and we start believing, you talked about procrastination or perfectionism. When you just believe that this is who I am a perfectionist, that's why- Mm-hmm … I read my emails 500 times before I send, and then I don't send, and I get in trouble, right? That is, I think, it's the, the big deal of what you were teaching in your talk, that it's not just, It's your belief that is just who you are. And what you're saying is "Oh, no, that is a pattern that we can break," just like any other habits that you have. Yeah, the physical habits are easier to identify, not because you're seeing it, but because someone outside of you is seeing it and alerting you to it. Whether they make that face like you're picking your nose, and they're like… that alerts you, that you're doing something that's not socially appropriate. But to your point, the things in our head, we don't have that alert system. We don't have something within us saying, "Hey, don't say that. That's awful. Why are you saying that?" It just plays ungoverned, right? There's nothing putting guardrails on how we talk to ourselves. We just do it. you had asked me before, about whether or not there's a list of these, and there's not. I tried to make the assessment as full as possible that I have provided for, the summit But it's only a fraction of what we actually play in our head. The idea behind things like that particular assessment is to get you starting to think about it, to get you to see that those pieces are there, that they're happening and they are repeating. Yeah. So just to gain some awareness so that you can start catching yourself. Yeah. You can't change what you don't see, right? Exactly. I can't change the fact that I'm a perfectionist if actually I don't notice that is why I do the things that I do. Exactly. I'd love to hear from you. Marie, okay, So I guess the one thing that I would really, really like to impart is that there's hope. That this is not hopeless, that we're not helpless, and that when we go through the stages of becoming aware and then taking another look at who's around us and then understanding that we have the opportunity to make those choices, there's hope in there, and there's hope for every single woman. We don't have to stay stuck and stagnant. I think for me, what I would like everyone to live with, especially from my talk and what I believe of future self, is that we tend to separate a lot of the past, the present, and the future, So I need to stay in the present, and then you are not too sure about the future or maybe you wanted to You, you're living too much in your past and you're not too sure about the present. And what I would like to tell everyone is to have this perspective that everything is really happening at the same time. As human beings, we are here in the present. And even though I am just here sitting in front of a microphone with these beautiful ladies in front of me, my mind is, "Oh, I only have one earring. I can't believe it. It has been this the whole day or did I just miss it," I have that drama going on, that it's about my past, and I have drama about the future. Am I doing a good job? Like, all of these things all happening while I'm sitting right here right now. So when we learn this, the mindset of the future self, it's really not only separating all of it, but allowing you to understand how do you create your life with that into consideration, right?? How do we create a life with everything is happening right now and you maybe could actually participate in the life that you are creating? It doesn't need to be that separated thing where you just need to take care of everyone all the time. Maybe you should be a part of your family and enjoy the presence of everyone there. Okay, Jennifer. The thing that I kept thinking about after my talk was that there's a saying as therapists that you can take your clients only as far as you've yourself gone. And so if you've learned a skill, you can kn- you're better at teaching it if you've practiced it yourself. And so I was thinking about how that same thing is true as a therapist. If you seek to learn how to better live in the present and future and learn how to make goals, set goals, and achieve goals, then you're better able to help your own clients achieve those things. And so there is, a translation from someone who gets help from a therapist who seeks coaching and gets that supported structure in order to do that thing that then can take it and it can be really helpful to use it in session with your own clients. When you were talking about burnout and coaching, I was like, Lord, I would like my therapist to be not burned out, to be present- Yeah … to be satisfied with their life while they're serving me.… It just made me realize again The value of you helping someone so they can be in a better place to actually serve their clients Yeah. It's like- Yeah yeah, I would want that for a therapist, to be able to do that. Yeah. You can be competent and still receive help and support yourself. How about you, Margaret? one thing that I've been thinking about is there are a lot of tools like Jin Shin Jyutsu and other things that I do that can help harmonize your mind, your emotions, and your body. One thing that we need to have when we're going through grief to harmonize our mind is access to someone who understands about the death and dying process, because that's a topic in our society that's very underserved and somewhat taboo. And it's hard to find a person to ask questions about the death and dying process that you can really have an open conversation with, that they're not, scared of, that it doesn't make them fearful or depressed, but just honest. Like, this is something we all have to face in our life, and we're really kidding ourselves if we haven't wondered what is it all about. And I really feel like I'm a person who has done the research and the journey, that I have a lot to say about it and a lot to learn from people who come to me and have that discussion with me. That's wonderful. how about you, Emily? Something additional that I think is really helpful is something that I had picked up over time, and it is if whenever you're trying to work on something or improve on something, it's okay if you don't, if you get tired, you don't complete it, that day. It's okay to miss one day. It's not okay to miss two. When we miss two days, then we miss three days, then we miss four days, and now we've totally stopped. And so just giving yourself that space of you're trying to reform and reshape the way that you are interacting with your money, it's a, that's a lot of deep thinking and effort that's happening in the very beginning until it becomes automatic. So if you missed one of those opportunities to use that exercise, that's okay, but then just get the next one, and don't just give up, and don't be frustrated with yourself. The same thing with tracking your money or anything like that. If it's not perfect, that's okay. You're already making steps forward, but don't miss it twice intentionally, right? So just forgive yourself, move on, and keep going. Don't give up, and don't ever let it do two days in a row. How about you, Erin? One thing that I wish I would've highlighted more during my talk was this idea of being your own safe space. I think it is so important for us to feel safe and comfortable within ourselves. I think there's a lot of things outside of us that kind of do the opposite of that, that makes us question our value and make us question how we look or our ability to perform versus somebody else's ability to perform. I think it is vitally important that we learn how to forgive ourselves and lift ourselves up and empower ourselves from within. I just, I feel that it's so important, and it connects to so many other things. It's just it's like having a really solid base, a really solid foundation to move through life Yeah, that is wonderful. And that is one thing coaches when clients ask me, it's like, "Do you judge your clients?" If I judge the clients, I wouldn't be doing my job, right? that is one big no-no, because it just wouldn't work. The coaching, the session wouldn't work. So yes, I think the coach can help so much the client start, to understand how they can be the- their safe place to just be themselves. Exactly. A lot of us didn't have that, in our lives early on, and some of us might not have that now. So to be able to build that for ourselves with ourselves, to move with us through the rest of our life, how awesome would that be? Can you imagine feeling comfortable and like being with the person that you are with the most? Yeah. What a concept. What a concept, right? And it's possible. That's the best part. It's possible. Yes. Not rainbows and unicorns. It's real. Yes. Totally. Well, ladies, for any coach who might be listening thinking, like, "Okay, this summit kinda sounds interesting. Kinda wish I could do this. Should I do it? yeah, Margaret. I just wanted to say preparing for this summit was, it really fulfilled something on my to-do list that was really important to me because I feel like one of the ways that I can best serve people is by giving workshops, and it's just, I think it's gonna be a very important way for me to be able to lead meditations and things like that, and I learned how to do it. I came with a really big idea and refined it, and then tried it, put it all together for my own, and I actually gave my own first workshop, standalone workshop. So now, because of the summit, I'm able to move forward, and that is one of my offerings, and I just like, I'm so pleased with that outcome and just wanna say thank you so much all right, Emily, I'll be fast, but it's twofold. So one, my personal, when I woke up yesterday with a horrific sore throat and I couldn't talk and I was in panic, and I sent you guys a message like, "I'm gonna try and I'm gonna do all the things." And then this morning Thais said, We have your video if you are, if you can't." And my heart just sank 'cause I thought,"I worked so damn hard to get here. I will not give this up." And so that completion, the full circle of getting to the end and doing it, was driving me so hard, and I got through it. So that was for me personally, was just, seeing something to the end. But then in terms of even joining the summit, I first came on as the fast track. Because I just wanted help, with building the business up. And partway through, I realized, "No, I really wanna be a part of this. I want to be a part of this community." it seemed like everybody was doing all these amazing things, and I wasn't… I was kind of on the other side of the door, and I wanted in. And and so I'm really glad that I made that choice, and I'm grateful that you guys allowed me to make that transition and didn't keep me locked out. So- and then the process of doing this, I do a lot of speaking, but I hadn't built something this intricately, and Thais was amazing and integral in, in giving me really helpful feedback and helping me to get in a different direction than when I started. And all of the things that I learned with it are things that… What I love about your program is it's not telling us how to do something, it's teaching us how to do something so we can turn around and do it ourselves. That's the same thing I try and teach. It doesn't help if I give you, detailed instructions. You need to be able to do the work when I'm not around, and you have taught, I think, all of us that came in with a lot of this, these questions. Now, not only have you showed us how to do it, but you've given us the tools to be able to keep redoing it on our own long after we're done working with you And that, to me, has more value than anything, and I would've paid eight times over for what your program was. I mean, it was just incredible. I'm so grateful. I'm so happy I found you and I'm grateful that you accepted to take me in, too So thank you, Emily. You're so sweet. Emily mentioned the video, so I wanna tell anybody who's listening, one of the requirements of the deal, there's a lot of requirements actually of things you have to do to be able to show up on summit day and speak, because our name is on it, and it needs to be done well. And, she's talking about Thais was reviewing things and looking at things and giving feedback, and people would have to redo things. It's brutal to hear the feedback, but it's always for the good of what we believe from our experience is gonna land best. But we also ask for you to submit a video. And if I could say what I think might be the hardest step of all of them is recording yourself knowing that, number one, you have to watch it back before the summit, and number two, you have to send it to us to ask us essentially give me a grade. That's essentially what it is. And I'm gonna be quite honest right here, we have people that went all the way up to the video, even recorded the video, and then dropped out. because it's, harder than you think. But then when you're here, you're like, "Oh, my gosh. It all makes sense." Emily was sick today. We're like, "No problem." I messaged Thais. I'm like, "Get the video ready for Emily because we might need to play it today." That's the point of having the video is we play it. And the video had been approved, right? But also, Emily, something that you said about the BBB style, why we are so different than other business coaching, is that we are so careful to not just give you templates, right? We do have templates for basically everything that you do in business, but before you use any type of template, we teach you why you are saying things the way you are saying. And in your talk specifically, the first time I reviewed what you were saying, it's like, oh, no. Hold on. The information you have is amazing, but when we think through the lenses of how your ideal client will understand, I don't know if that will connect, because it wasn't meeting them where they were. The information was right, but the way you were saying it wasn't matching, wasn't aligned with the ideal client. So even going through, and I'm just sharing with you the back end of the, the feedback that you receive, and you are so coachable. The whole process, you just made it so easy that when you tell us that you're so grateful that we accepted you, I'm like, "Bring more Emilys. Bring more Emilys." You are such a delight to have as a client. Well, I told Debbie, "You are the experts, and, you know, I'll try anything you tell me. And then if it doesn't work, I'll decide it doesn't work. But I'm not gonna pre-decide. That's what I'm paying you for." But the truth is, we don't really know what's gonna happen until we do something, right? that's the whole other benefit I'll say of the summit, is we had everybody do their workshops ahead of time. We get information to see what is actually working so that we know how to do better, and that's really how you grow an effective business. I would also say it was really helpful when we were first talking about my topic and as Thais was saying, I was coming from a place of I understand it, so I was talking to this person. And we had the group together, and again, my, the chat blew up and and there was amazing feedback from the group, just the women on the call saying, applying this to their personal lives, it wasn't resonating. And so we were able to change it to something where my point was the same, but it was being delivered in a way that would be received, and that was invaluable to have eight women immediately in front of me that can tell me, "This makes sense," or, "This is working," or, "This isn't." It was very helpful. And see, that's the benefit of the group coaching, right? You still get your private session in a group setting, and that is one of the biggest benefits that we see. Okay, next, Erin. So for me it's a, much like Emily, it's twofold. It's the learning piece, because sometimes I process directions differently than other people. I know, some of us are like that. And so I might second-guess what it is I'm reading when I'm trying to learn one of these new things that I'm trying to figure out how to do for my business, and it's just so nice to have somebody that I can talk to and say, you know,"Is this… Am I thinking about this correctly, or is it this other way?" And just to get some clarity around that really helps build up the confidence to be able to try to do the new thing, is very, very helpful. And then just the summit itself is such a motivator to get you to step out of your comfort zone. We kind of build up the idea of,"Maybe one day I'll give a talk. That would be nice." But when it's right there and you have to meet these deadlines to hit these components that we need to submit to be able to present, and then to second-guess yourself but then be like, "Oh, well, we're here anyway. Thais said my video was good. I must be okay," that's, it, it's really does help to drive the process along, and you definitely come out feeling more confident in what you're doing and how you're presenting to other people than before doing this process Yeah, that's great. Jennifer, how about you? I just really appreciate this experience Because I've, I've had coaching, but I've had… personal coaching, and so I've never had business coaching, and so this is a new experience for me. And so it is the parallel process of being a coach, receiving coaching, and giving coaching all simultaneously. And it was a joy, and, I like to think about breaking things down into tiny chewable pieces and in, in order to get to the place where you wanna go. And so I have felt my business catapult from being something that was real but didn't maybe feel real out in the world to something that's very real and out in the world now. Marie, I'm gonna let you wrap us up. Okay, so this is my third summit. The first time around , I had absolutely no idea what I was doing with a lot of the technology. The second time I did it, I upgraded myself with the technology. I still wasn't where I really wanted to be, but I learned more. This time, I was so burnt, talk about burnt out I couldn't keep up with the dates because the circumstances I was involved in I was gonna drop out of the summit. And, uh, Debbie and Thais said, "No, no. Use what you had from last year." And I was like, Why do I need to make this more difficult for myself?" So I did, and I had more fun with the with the emailing, and finding names, and doing some posting. And I I went in a different direction that I would not have done had I been focused on the slides and focused on the talk again. And I learned a lot more. So, uh, needless to say, I'm, I told my nieces, "You better get on and watch me." Yes. Yes, for sure. But it was a great… it's a great learning experience. oh, Debbie, I, I'm just so grateful. I'm grateful for the work of these coaches. I always say that the summit has such a special place in my heart. It really got me from the baby coach to an entrepreneur who knows what she's doing, who has confidence in the business. And, uh, my goodness, I have so much gratitude for you, for the work that you do, that I see now you're doing it with other coaches, and I know you have done it for me, too. The ability that I had to create the business that I wanted, to hit six figures, and then to not be focused on the money but be focused on other things that I care for and getting back to getting the goals that I have. Everything, I just have so much gratitude. Then, again, what Emily was saying about the, the feedback and everything, it's like, yes, that is why it's so necessary to have you especially looking at our business and teaching us how to think about things and how to develop the courage to just, just go and do it, right? Like, you don't know what it's like to build a business until you, like all of you guys, get into a summit and you have all of this work that you had to do, and now you know how, right? that is the goal for us is to help all of the coaches that work with us succeed. And again, I am the proof that this method works. And that it's a blessing for me to be able to participate in the summit with you and share my expertise with all of these coaches in the audience. I'm just so grateful that we just finished one more summits, and I can wait for the next- … the next and the next and the next.. Thank you so much. I appreciate and I love you all very much. So there you go. Bye-bye.

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